Legislature(1997 - 1998)

05/05/1998 07:30 PM House FIN

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SENATE BILL NO. 323                                                            
                                                                               
"An Act relating to sexual offenses, to those who                              
commit sexual offenses, and to registration of sex                             
offenders; amending Rule 6(r)(2), Alaska Rules of                              
Criminal Procedure; and providing for an effective                             
date."                                                                         
                                                                               
KRISTIE TIBBLES, STAFF, SENATOR DRUE PEARCE, explained that                    
the use of children in the production of sexually explicit                     
material, including photographs, films, videos, and                            
computer images is a form of sexual abuse that can result                      
in physical or psychological harm to the children involved.                    
Individuals who utilize children as sexual objects or are                      
sexually attracted to children often seek out and collect                      
sexually explicit materials for their own sexual                               
gratification.                                                                 
                                                                               
Ms. Tibbles pointed out that access to the Internet has                        
become one of the preferred methods of distributing and                        
collecting child pornographic materials; several                               
investigations across the country have revealed thousands                      
of pieces of child pornography in the hands of child                           
pornographers.  Congress passed the Child Pornography                          
Prevention Act in 1996 and several states are taking action                    
to strengthen their pornography laws.                                          
                                                                               
Ms. Tibbles continued, the Alaska penalty for distribution                     
of child pornography, a Class C felony, is not more than                       
five years.  Law enforcement officers are encountering                         
problems in trying to prove distribution.  Offenders are                       
often charged with or plead down to possession of child                        
pornography, a Class A misdemeanor offense with a penalty                      
of not more than one year in prison, unless the offender is                    
convicted of more than one count and receives a consecutive                    
sentence.  SB 323 would increase the offense for possession                    
of child pornography to a class C felony, and the offense                      
for distribution to a Class B felony offense, punishable by                    
not more than 10 years in prison.                                              
                                                                               
Ms. Tibbles pointed out that SB 323 also would create the                      
offense of indecent exposure in the first degree if the                        
offender knowingly masturbates within the observation of a                     
person under 16 years of age.  The crime will be a Class C                     
felony offense.  The bill makes the existing offense of                        
indecent exposure, indecent exposure in the 2nd degree.                        
The penalty for this offense is a Class A misdemeanor when                     
committed before a person under 16 years of age, and a                         
Class B misdemeanor when committed before a person 16 years                    
or older.                                                                      
                                                                               
Ms. Tibbles explained the SB 323 would require sex offender                    
registration for the offenses of indecent exposure in the                      
first degree, indecent exposure in the second degree if                        
committed before a minor under the age of 16 for the second                    
offense, and possession of child pornography.  Currently,                      
only offenders who are convicted for distribution of child                     
pornography are required to register.                                          
                                                                               
Ms. Tibbles summarized that the existence and distribution                     
of child pornographic images creates the potential for many                    
types of harm in the community and presents a clear and                        
present danger to all children.  Strengthing the penalties                     
for these crimes send a clear message that the degradation                     
and exploitation of our children will not be tolerated.                        
Agencies in support of SB 323 include the Department of                        
Public Safety, the Alaska Peace Officers Association, the                      
Anchorage Police Department, UAF Police, and STAR.                             
                                                                               
JAYNE ANDREEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, COUNCIL ON DOMESTICE                        
VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT, JUNEAU, voiced support of the                     
proposed legislation.                                                          
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf questioned the proposed title of                    
offense of "possession" of child pornography.  He thought                      
that "possession" was proposing a bit too stiff penalty.                       
Ms. Andreen pointed out that there is a network that takes                     
place for people who are interested in these types of                          
materials.  These are materials that are explicitly set up                     
to sexualize children.  She stressed how frightening it is                     
that people are preying upon children for sexual                               
gratification.                                                                 
                                                                               
Representative Martin echoed the avalability of vicious                        
materials taking advantage of children.  Representative J.                     
Davies inquired the placement in statute of the definition                     
of "child pornography".  Ms. Tibbles replied that the                          
statute that pertains to possession refers back to that                        
definition under the exploitation of a child.  The statute                     
site for possession of pornography is AS 11.61.127, and was                    
included on Page 3 of the bill.                                                
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf reiterated that current state                       
law seems adequate when addressing "possession".  He                           
questioned the need to escalate it to a Class C felony.                        
Representative J. Davies agreed that the "effort" should be                    
made to "stamp out" those people who are producing the                         
materials.  He asked if there was evidence which correlates                    
the possession of child pornography to other kinds of                          
exploitation of children.  Ms. Andreen replied that there                      
is a very significant connection between them, which is                        
part of the entire cycle occurring at this time.  She                          
emphasized that with the Internet accessibility, it has                        
become an industry.                                                            
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies warned the possibility of those                       
who are curious, surfing the Internet, and the need to                         
establish the gray areas, so that the otherwise innocent                       
are not tracked.  He asked if there was a way to draw a                        
line and limit, perhaps including a rebuttal defense.                          
Representative Kelly asked if possession would include the                     
casual surfer pursuing the Internet.                                           
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN BERKOWITZ responded that it was                           
possible to possess without intending to "possess".  He                        
agreed this could create problems and that these issues                        
were discussed in the House Judiciary Committee.                               
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies asked if including "intentional"                      
or "knowing" possession could address the problem on Page                      
3, Line 2.  Representative Kelly thought that "knowingly"                      
would be easier to prove.  Representative Berkowitz                            
explained that "possession" was the exercise of dominion                       
and control over an object.  Representative J. Davies                          
inquired if storing an images on the computer would be                         
classified as possession.  Representative Berkowitz could                      
not answer that.                                                               
                                                                               
Representative Kelly MOVED to adopt Amendment #1.                              
Representative Mulder OBJECTED.  Representative Berkowitz                      
asked that Lines #1 - #3 be deleted from the amendment.  He                    
explained that the amendment would address indecent                            
exposure in a crowded situation.  He stated that such an                       
act would be difficult to prove that it was directed at a                      
specific individual.  Representative Kelly MOVED to amend                      
Amendment #1.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was amended.                       
                                                                               
There being NO OBJECTION to the amended Amendment #1, it                       
was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                               
Representative Mulder questioned the point at which a                          
person would move beyond curiosity and into collection.                        
Representative Berkowitz advised that testimony in the                         
House Judiciary Committee indicated that a collection of                       
over 100 was clearly a serious collector with a high                           
correlation of trading and sexual assaults.                                    
                                                                               
Following discussion regarding trading and possession,                         
Representative J. Davies MOVED to amend Page 3, Line 2,                        
inserting "knowing" before "possession".  There being NO                       
OBJECTION, it was adopted.  Co-Chair Therriault noted that                     
the Legislative drafters should phrase that language                           
appropriately.                                                                 
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies questioned if there should be a                       
distinction between "possession" as a Class A misdemeanor                      
and "knowing possession" as a Class C felony.                                  
Representative G. Davis pointed out that distribution is                       
the problem, not the possession.  Representative Berkowitz                     
elaborated that there is no limit to the number of counts                      
that a person could possess.                                                   
                                                                               
Representative Mulder spoke to the fiscal note.                                
                                                                               
BRUCE RICHARDS, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, OFFICE OF THE                             
COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, noted that the                        
Department had submitted an unsigned fiscal note.                              
                                                                               
(Tape Change HFC 98-157, Side 1).                                              
                                                                               
Mr. Richards remarked that he had spoken with the Anchorage                    
Police Department asking them what the anticipated caseload                    
would be, based on previous experience.  They anticipate                       
three cases a year.  The Department's submitted analysis                       
provides the cost to cover that projected average.                             
                                                                               
Representative Mulder noted that he would support the                          
original fiscal note which represented a lesser amount.                        
Mr. Richards pointed out that the proposed bill would                          
transfer the cost of incarcerating people from the federal                     
government to the State government.  Ms. Tibbles                               
acknowledged that Senator Pearce had not seen the new                          
fiscal note.  Co-Chair Therriault noted that the bill would                    
be HELD in Committee in order to discuss the fiscal impact                     
with Senator Pearce.                                                           
                                                                               
SB 323 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                        

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